President Trump addressed the nation from the Oval Office on Tuesday night regarding the government shutdown and the border wall. While some expected the speech to give hints to a bipartisan compromise, it didn’t. Farmers Dennis Bogaards and Don Lamb said the speech was what most people expected it to be: more of the same.
“I think he said what most Republicans thought he was gonna say, or even most Democrats, I don't know that there were any big surprises that came out of it,” Bogaards told AgriTalk host Chip Flory. “I guess I was kind of neutral on what he said. I thought he did okay. But it's the same thing that he's been saying and the Democrats kind of said the same thing that they have been saying. I'm not sure that we made a whole lot of ground last night.”
If you read the transcript of the speech, Lamb says his thoughts on border security are logical.
“It all makes sense, it just seems like both sides are so divided and so it just doesn't quite matter what makes sense and what doesn't,” he said. “It's all talking points at this point and so it's frustrating because you feel like nobody's really looking at the details of the issue, they're just looking at the big picture politics and power.”
Both farmers agree that they don’t see support for Trump eroding in their communities. Instead, Lamb says faith in the system is what he thinks is eroding.
“Trump is Trump and he makes me nervous and he says things I don't like and all of that. So that's all out there for sure, but I think what you're seeing is an erosion of faith in the whole process,” he said. “I feel like there's somebody who's just trying to get it done and trying to follow through on campaign promises and because those were campaign promises on one side of the political aisle, the other side, it will not let it happen, even if it's a good idea.”
From Bogaards’ perspective, Trump made a campaign promise about the wall and likely was not being serious when he said Mexico would pay for it, but Democrats won’t let him live that down.
“I can look at some of the things that he says and kind of laugh and be like, ‘Oh yeah, he's joking,’” he said. That's how we would talk with our friends about stuff, but you know, the other side looks at it is as you know, he's serious and he's gonna try to make them pay for it when we're all sitting around going ‘Yeah, right good luck.’”